I know Elly wasn't exactly leaving things to fate when she reconstructed Mike's Stone[d] Season and tried to have it published as her own work--let alone causing the whole time warp. But it's not out-of-character for her to be self-contradictory.
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Elly's having no idea how she looks to other people in also well in character; it's clear that Ms Hodgepodge has correctly identified her as a flake who's going to waste everyone else's time.
I suppose it's a wonder Elly has the two friends she's got--not that this will stop her from ultimately distancing herself from Anne.
Not only do we see what would probably be an accurate reaction to normal person trying to make friends with Elly, but I think you have also given us insight as to the exact moment when Paul Wright and Eric Chamberlain decided to go with women other than Elizabeth Patterson, when she used the fate line to describe her relationship with them.
Not only do we see what would probably be an accurate reaction to normal person trying to make friends with Elly, but I think you have also given us insight as to the exact moment when Paul Wright and Eric Chamberlain decided to go with women other than Elizabeth Patterson, when she used the fate line to describe her relationship with them.
That's an excellent point howtheduck, considering she used nearly the same "fate" language for each of these guys. I also find it bitterly ironic that when Liz was dating Eric, she said that what she'd had with Anthony had not been love, but with Eric, she knew that it was, indeed, love. Then, after Liz became engaged to Anthony, we had that whole thoughtbubblelogue where she admires her own engagement ring and muses that while she'd thought she'd had love with Eric, Paul, and Warren (!), she realized that she hadn't had love with them, after all, but she knew "this is love" with Anthony--without having to think about it. Grrr.
howard,
That reminds me of one of the nastier things that Gary Crane said to Liz just before she left Mtigwaki for good; as we all know, he turned her "trusting in fate" philosophy against her to remind her how selfish and stupid she'd been. The sad part is that we all know that it was in vain; she still blinded herself to the need to take responsibility for her own actions, to realize that SHE was in charge of guiding her own destiny.
April_Patterson,
I also find it bitterly ironic that when Liz was dating Eric, she said that what she'd had with Anthony had not been love, but with Eric, she knew that it was, indeed, love. Then, after Liz became engaged to Anthony, we had that whole thoughtbubblelogue where she admires her own engagement ring and muses that while she'd thought she'd had love with Eric, Paul, and Warren (!), she realized that she hadn't had love with them, after all, but she knew "this is love" with Anthony--without having to think about it.
Which leads us to the inescapable conclusion that Liz has no idea what love actually is. Considering her background, that's not a real shock or anything but it's sort of depressing that she's going to spend her life like Elly and trick herself into believing that she does.
dc2, that strip you linked is so frustrating, since in the first two panels, Gary raises extremely valid points, but then he segues into the BS about Paul being a northern made-of-snow guy and the fatalist nonsense. I wish he'd stopped talking after panel two and looked at Liz expectently until she actually addressed the questions he raised. What, indeed, did she expect of Paul with her sudden and fake homesickness leading her to an abrupt move to the GTA?
Which leads us to the inescapable conclusion that Liz has no idea what love actually is.
Sad but true. Another glaring discrepancy between the strip Lynn ostensibly thinks she's writing and what she actually conveys. 0_o
Gary raises extremely valid points, but then he segues into the BS about Paul being a northern made-of-snow guy and the fatalist nonsense. I wish he'd stopped talking after panel two and looked at Liz expectently until she actually addressed the questions he raised.
If this were being written by a more talented writer, I would say that Gary is using Liz-speak to try to reach her little Liz brain to try and convince her to remove any thought she might have about getting Paul back. I am sure Lynn Johnston prefers to think of Gary as the wise man giving advice to Liz using the same "fate" language that Lynn herself used, when she talked about the guy she ran into in the grocery store who never showed her his folio in that recent podcast. The best part of Gary Crane was that every time the idea of Liz and Paul being together came up, he brought up the issue of race as a reason they shouldn't be together.
I am sure Lynn Johnston prefers to think of Gary as the wise man giving advice to Liz using the same "fate" language that Lynn herself used, when she talked about the guy she ran into in the grocery store who never showed her his folio in that recent podcast.
Ew, you're right. I am guessing we're supposed to agree with this magical thinking.
The best part of Gary Crane was that every time the idea of Liz and Paul being together came up, he brought up the issue of race as a reason they shouldn't be together.
And probably we're supposed to think it's okay and not-racist because it is coming from a First Nations person.
Then, after Liz became engaged to Anthony, we had that whole thoughtbubblelogue where she admires her own engagement ring and muses that while she'd thought she'd had love with Eric, Paul, and Warren (!), she realized that she hadn't had love with them, after all
People who say after the fact that they weren't "really" in love with someone they were with because the relationship didn't last forever and ever drive me nuts. What's so hard about "it was love but it didn't work out"? Though Liz is, of course, nuts -- in love with Warren? Where did that come from? Does she have to retroactively pretend she thought she was "in love" with every guy she was interested in so that she won't think of herself as "dirty" or something?
Does she have to retroactively pretend she thought she was "in love" with every guy she was interested in so that she won't think of herself as "dirty" or something?
Bleah, that's probably it. There never was any relationship with Warren--to pretend otherwise is.... Liz retconning her own life. 0_o
There never was any relationship with Warren--to pretend otherwise is.... Liz retconning her own life. 0_o
Actually, it's not really Liz reconning, but Lazy Lynn forgetting she hadn't written anything that actually looked like a "love arc" featuring Warren. :p
Actually, it's not really Liz reconning, but Lazy Lynn forgetting she hadn't written anything that actually looked like a "love arc" featuring Warren. :p
Ah, good point. She's shown again and again that she has those lapses. Maybe back when she first introduced the character, she was planning to have Warren develop into a real relationship, but then she never really got to it.
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